I would like to know why there seems to be an hierachy between student nurses who are doing the degree course rather than the diploma? Unlike most other degree courses, nursing courses run all year and although the diploma course is being replaced by the degree. The diploma course offered a bursary which just covers a students living costs, they still need to either work or get family handouts, it did seem the logical way of learning. By bringing back secondments, more people will think about doing the nursing training, especially giving the current economic situation.
I'm not sure about the reasons for the current differences in the NHS Bursary scheme. Maybe it has something to do with those entering onto diploma course needing more financial support? Not sure though.
It may interest you to know that the NHS Bursary scheme is being looked into by the Department of Health. They launched a consultation into bursaries a few months back that looks to plan ahead for when the NMC requirements change to make this a degree-only profession. It is an interesting read and I would recommend all fellow students to have a look at it.
Although I can't advise directly we are holding a Live online Q&A session tomorrow with a panel of experts from within the NHS and from Universities around the country - they might be able to offer you some useful information.
Check it out here - http://tiny.cc/KuidE
Although it goes live tomorrow between 1-4pm you can post early as it's open now.
Personallyi think the best option is to do the diploma in years one and two as you get the bursery (non means tested) and work is identical to degree students and then in year three change to degree. This is not a problem and easy to do in most universities as long as the university thinks you have the ability- and normally they encourage this change over,so should support you even if you didnt have the grades to enable you to swap to degree.
The qualification you get at the end is identicle to those students who were on the degree program the whole three years.
The only thng i should point out,is that if you take this route bare in mind that you will no longer be eligeble for the non means tested bursery in this third year.
In my country Malta, to enter the Nursing course, for degree you need to have the Matriculation certificate that is around 6 O levels if I' m not mistaken but then you need to have A levels one specific of course ... A level pass in Biology. However for diploma course only O levels around 6 you need one of them needs to be a science subject obviously. Currently I am enrolled in the degree programme, my final year cause both courses are based on 3 years of both theory and practice. However, here, students who are doing the diploma course get the opportunity to do an online 2 year conversion course from diploma to degree once they are working full time nurses. so they continue learning etc.. mainly the difference in our courses is the dissertation and some material like for example diploma students don t go in certain details etc... however having said that both of these courses are important, nurses in my country and everywhere are always on the need :) Thanks for the opportunity to write in these forums and looking forward to hear from many other students. Good luck with your course guys and take care :)
It is really up to you whether to have a nursing diploma or degree course. Ask yourself about your career path. Invest in education that would prepare you on your chosen career. Read some articles, opinions that would enlighten your decision. Here is a link that would be of great help in your decision http://www.nursingexplorer.com/ .
Unless their is a lecturer/teacher on this site i would go directly to the college/university and speak to them about your options, that way you will know 100% what you can do. But your point 2 below about stating a bachelors in year 2 or 3 having previously got a diploma is very likely but again depends on the subject.
Thought most employers unless you have a lot of relavant work experience would prefer the degree, the diploma is all good - it might be that with a years further study you could make that diploma a degree if you see what i mean.
The main difference between the courses is the academic level at which students complete their studies. Students on the diploma course complete a total of 72 credits at level 4 and 168 credits at level 5 throughout the course. Degree students complete 120 credits in each year of the course, studying at level 4 in year one, level 5 in year two and level 6 in year three. The degree course, therefore, is more academically intensive than the diploma course. This is reflected in the degree requiring students to have higher entry qualifications than for the diploma. Find out more about the minimum entry requirements for both courses by clicking on the course titles here. - See more at: http://blogs.bcu.ac.uk/choices/2009/03/20/nursing-degree-diploma-differences/#sthash.rf9miwlB.dpuf
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