Enhanced CRB check
27-Jun-2009 4:05 pm
I am starting an Access to Higher Education in Nursing & Midwifery in September with a view to study for a Nursing degree in 2010.
I am now 30 years old, however when I was 14 or 15 I was cautioned for shoplifting. Obviously this conviction is considered spent now, and I haven't been in trouble since this time, or indeed before this offence.
My questions are as follows:
1.Is there any way to check what is being held on my enhanced CRB record before I begin my studies?
2.Would this be a hindrance when applying for a degree course?
3.In the event I do get accepted by a University and complete my degree, would an event which occurred nearly 20 years ago have a detrimental affect on me gaining employment.
I have been worried sick since I found about this policy, I had been looking forward to a very rewarding and satisfying career in the NHS. Seems a shame something that happened in my misspent youth would stop me in pursuing something I have really developed a desire for recently.
Please could you give me honest answers, as I would be heartbroken if I was to do all the hard work, only to be not be given a chance when it really mattered.
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19-Aug-2009 9:20 am
Hi - Some additional information for you to think about...when a CRB check is undertaken you receive a copy. So if you were to gain employment/volunteer in an area where an CRB was required you will know what will show up. Your previous caution WILL be on it...
It is VERY important that when you fill in a CRB application form that you share on this ANY contact that you may have had with the Police; this includes anything that has resulted in a caution or where some sort of record has been made. From an HEI viewpoint failure to disclose pertinent information could potentially bring into doubt your suitability for a course due to the NMC requirements.
HEI's generally have a confidential panel approach to reviewing the disclosures which allows an equitable approach to review your suitability for professional courses. It would be unethical to allow you to undertake any course if your previous history would prevent subsequent employment.
If there are concerns you will be asked to provide an additional supporting statement.
Everyone makes mistakes - learning from them is the key...Good Luck.
14-Dec-2009 3:56 pm
A warning - I failed to declare a really old conviction when applying for a job more than ten years ago - I was told by a reliable but informal source that it was spent and I didn't need to declare it, and CRBs were not invented back then - but it got me into trouble when retrospective CRBs were done and has had a lasting impact on me and on my career. It was an honest error but that was not believed and I have suffered badly because of it - and admittedly because of some spurious beurocracy and jobsworth mentalities.
3-Jan-2010 7:36 pm
...just to add, i knowthe rehab of offenders act (1974) means that spent convictions are essentially dead for all but certain careers. Basically any role that could involve working with children or vulnerable people (nursing falls into this category) requires a full disclosure. I think it should only be legal to mention offences that relate directly to kids, other things (like the shoplifting mentioned above) are irrelevant if spent.
29-Jan-2010 1:23 pm
I have just been offered a job in the NHS working as a clerical assisstant and I need a crb check I am really worried as 4 years ago i rented a room from a guy and one weekend when i got home the house was being ripped apart by undercover police not known to me the lad i rented a room off had lots of drugs under his floor boards, I was arrested as I lived at the property and received a caution he went to jail for many years but I just got a caution as I new nothing about it, will this show on my CRB??? shall I ring my new employer and explain the situation?? I am so worried about it, never been oin trouble for anything else
5-Mar-2010 7:47 pm
Hi, yes you definitely do have a criminal record but it will be spent now under the rehabilitation of offenders act. So in one sense you don't have one anymore and don't have to disclose it to most employers but it will show up on an enhanced disclosure, which is used for certain positions such as nursing. We all make mistakes, i hope this doesn't hold you back- just be honest about it. You can explain that you were struggling terribly moneywise etc...
6-Mar-2010 7:53 pm
I need some advise . . .
I have been a staff nurse since 2007 and in febuary I was convicted of common assult.
I have been offered a job and have told the ward manager all about it, I have been honest as I know it will come back on my CRB check.
Do I have to contact the NMC?
7-Mar-2010 10:53 pm
PLEASE HELP ME?
I am 15 and hopefully in september i will be in college and working in a hospital as part of the course, Because of this i need a CRB Check.
This time last year i got into trouble, well not so much trouble - i THINK i got a warning for "being there". The people i was with jumped over a bush. I know i didnt get a caution, and i only had to sign the police officers note book.
Now i have applied and had an interview and didnt think a warning was going to show up so i didnt tell them about it. Im scared it will show up and they will think ive tried to hide it.
1. Will it show up?
2. If i was to ring the police station would they tell me if it was a warning or just "a word"?
3. Should i ring the college and let them know about this?
4. Because i didnt tell them about it will i get into trouble?
PLEASE Help me :(
A confused and worried 15 year old.
15-Mar-2010 6:39 pm
Cautions are criminal records; anything recorded from the age of two will show up. Honesty is always the best policy, lots of people have records – I got one for breaking a window after one too many – If you are trying to convince people it was a mistake, it will be easier, if you start with honesty not dishonesty. I read on the NMC website they allowed an individual with a caution for possession of ecstasy to start on a degree course.
19-Mar-2010 0:25 am
I agree with Geordie, honesty is the best policy,especially with CRB checks. Hiding something that comes to light when the CRB comes through, will make an employer/HEI/College question your honesty, and in the worst case scenario could mean termination of a job or a place on your course. Colleges and HEIs are very used to speaking to students about CRB issues, and are usually understanding and will give you good advice. If you are not sure about what might come up on your CRB, do contact your local police station for advice - they will tell you who to contact.
For the 'confused and worried 15 year old' my advice is to contact your police station and discuss with your college, and exaplin why you didn't mention it at your interview. Best of luck.
27-Jul-2010 1:44 am
About a year ago I had a malicious false allegation of harassment made against me. The police issued a written warning without even speaking to me. After my complaint to the police and proper investigation, the warning was rescinded and the allegation marked as malicious and false in the police records. 3 months later I did an enhanced CRB that came back completely clear. I now had to do another one. It is taking over 3 months and I am now getting seriously paranoid that the false allegation may actually come up because:
1) It has been 3 months
2) CRB say police returned the application to them with a request to forward the application to two more forces. I have changed a few addresses over the years. But only within two forces, not three.
Am I getting sick worried for nothing or should I get very concerned now? Could it be simply that crb did not sent my additional sheet of past addresses? Or an over-keen police officer wants to now disclose the incident?
Many thanks in advance for your responses.
15-Aug-2010 8:26 pm
hi please could someone help i have been offered aprovisional place at uni for learning disabilities nurse i have informed them that i do have several cautions from 16, 17 years ago for assault and one from 2007 for the same thing am worried to death that this will hamper my dream of becoming a nurse.
25-Sep-2010 4:57 pm
Hi I wonder if someone has an answer for me please?
I am wanting to apply for a nursing and also midwifery degree.
About three years ago I was cautioned for possessing a small amount of class a drugs.
I am obviously very ashamed of this.
I know it will show up on on the crb, but do have I completely no hope of being accepted onto any of the courses because of the caution I recieved? I do not have any other cautions or convictions.
I work in a care home and they are aware of my caution. I have good qualifications and good references if I do apply for theses courses.
Any advice or knowledge would be greatly appreciated.
Location: Throughout UK
1-Oct-2010 5:09 pm
If you're not on the vetting and barring list (you'd know if you were) then you'll need to discuss it at interview and convince them that it's not an issue. There's no legal reason to prevent you (if you're not on the list) - just a hurdle to overcome at interview.
If you were on the list you wouldn't be able to work in a care home anyway so presumably you're not.
Hope that helps.