Enhanced CRB check
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27-Jun-2009 4:05 pm
I am starting an Access to Higher Education in Nursing & Midwifery in September with a view to study for a Nursing degree in 2010.
I am now 30 years old, however when I was 14 or 15 I was cautioned for shoplifting. Obviously this conviction is considered spent now, and I haven't been in trouble since this time, or indeed before this offence.
My questions are as follows:
1.Is there any way to check what is being held on my enhanced CRB record before I begin my studies?
2.Would this be a hindrance when applying for a degree course?
3.In the event I do get accepted by a University and complete my degree, would an event which occurred nearly 20 years ago have a detrimental affect on me gaining employment.
I have been worried sick since I found about this policy, I had been looking forward to a very rewarding and satisfying career in the NHS. Seems a shame something that happened in my misspent youth would stop me in pursuing something I have really developed a desire for recently.
Please could you give me honest answers, as I would be heartbroken if I was to do all the hard work, only to be not be given a chance when it really mattered.
Many thanks.
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24-Apr-2013 6:43 pm
I have just received an offer for a midwifery course at university starting this year. It has been so difficult to get this decision and I have worked so hard the past year on my access course. I am 26 and a mother of a 4 year old. 6 years ago I was convicted of drink driving, no licence or insurance, a stupid silly mistake that I have learned from. I was given a ban for 20 months and a fine. I have no other convictions but two arrests with no further action from when I was about 15-17 I was told these would not be on my record by the police one was deception of property and one I was involved in a scuffle. I was a teen in with the wrong crowd and completely regret that bit of my past , however was so long ago and shouldn't and doesn't reflect my character now. On the selection day I did not declare these as I was sure anything past five years is deemed spent and in no need to declare. Now I feel I have not done the right thing after reading this page and do not know what to do, I have not yet accepted their offer or taken part of the enhanced crb that will follow shortly but have already signed the declaration at my selection day. He's anyone got any advise? Shall I contact crb helpline? Or write a letter to the panel? I will be absolutely heart broken of they withdraw their offer. Today should be the most happiest exciting day, yet I can't enjoy it with this hanging over my head.
Please some advice and what you think the university will do from here on...
Greatly appreciated.
30-Mar-2012 5:07 pm
Hi All,
I am a 2nd year student nurse. My student loan and bursary was stopped just at the beginning of my 2nd year because i changed universities. Due to hardship, i did some work for an agency but i didn't inform the housing benefits people because I thought it wasn't a 'proper' job and i was going to stop when my bursary got sorted. Anyway, they've asked me to pay back an overpayment of £300 and they want to give me a caution but i don't know whether to accept it or not. They say if i don't accept it, they will take me to court. I'm also scared that though its not a police caution, if I accept it, it may affect my studies or future job prospects. Please advise me. Don't know what to do.
30-Mar-2012 5:02 pm
Hi All,
I am a 2nd year student nurse. My student loan and bursary was stopped just at the beginning of my 2nd year because i changed universities. Due to hardship, i did some work for an agency but i didn't inform the housing benefits people because I thought it wasn't a 'proper' job and i was going to stop when my bursary got sorted. Anyway, they've asked me to pay back an overpayment of £300 and they want to give me a caution but i don't know whether to accept it or not. They say if i don't accept it, they will take me to court. I'm also scared that though its not a police caution, if I accept it, it may affect my studies or future job prospects. Please advise me. Don't know what to do.
8-Mar-2012 11:34 pm
Hi everyone,
Just updating you on my post of 2010 regarding a caution i received while studying a nursing course ( Caution for Battery and damage of a blanket).
2years ego i was really frustrated and low in mood because of the caution i received from the police. To be honest i understand the government trying to reduce crime rate but i don't think it is positive for people to be cautioned and details of it to come up on an enhanced CRB check all the individual's life. If the government believe that people learn from the mistake then why leave a punishment stay on the person's CRB all his/her life? Doesn't this going to make someone of us even worst since we already know that we got a caution that is never going to be removed from our CRB? is this really lowering the crime rate? In my opinion since receiving a caution, i feel scared to commit a crime but on the other hand i feel like people are looking at me as if i was a stranger, a violent person while i'm not. I'm a loving and caring person. Everybody makes mistake and so do i.
I learned from this experience but it pointless for it to stay on my CRB all my life and hunting me as if i was a bad person. why the government does not even try to protect those not repeating crime to be treated equally? e.g.no disclosing what we have done years ego but only if this pose a "high or very high" risk to vulnerable people, im talking here people put in a barred list. Anyway, i was just trying to explain how i feel.
By the way, after receiving the police caution i disclosed it to the university as being honest leads people to trust you. I sincerely was sorry what i had done, it was out of my character and everybody makes mistake. The uni summoned me to a panel where i had to present them with a good character reference. The panel examined the circumstance leading to the caution and decided that i should be kept on the course but in one condition, writing an essay on nurses' behavior outside and inside the clinical setting. I felt so relieved on the day because i thought it was the end of my career. I appreciate what they have done to me and promised that i will not commit a crime again.
I'm now a qualified nurse and i'm happy to take on responsibility as a nurse and devote my life to help vulnerable patients to recover and live a healthy and happy life. Note: I'm now doing some job hunt and will keep you up to date with whats going on with employers when i will have to disclose the caution to them. Pray for me!
Do not give up if you get a caution, the best policy is to disclose it. Be honest and keep hope alive. Bear in mind 1/4 of the population will have a police caution so people that will judge you and don't give you an opportunity will probably end up with a caution someday because nobody knows what the future holds ( I don't wish this to happen to anyone!)
Thanks for reading this,
With love xx
2-Jan-2012 12:15 pm
Hi i was wondering if anyone could help me, i am due to begin an adult nursing degree and i have currently been waiting 4 weeks on my police check and it still hasnt been returned to me, i am sure everything will be ok on it as i have never been in any sort of trouble, my only problem is i moved house 4 and a half years ago and i cant remember the exact dates so i just put the month and year- it may even be a month out i.e i put march but it could have been february, will this go against me when they are tracing me at previous addresses? it may sound ridiculous to some people but i am very worried :(
2-Jan-2012 9:53 am
HI,I WORK WITH THE NHS,i was accused of theft 4months ago and the police was involved they had no evidence as is over 4 months and the police are still investigating,now have gotten another job and my employer needs to carry out a crb on me am so scared if any thing will come out if as the case have not been charged and they dont have any proove,can anyone please highlight me as am so scared if it will turn out on my crb check
29-Aug-2011 4:08 pm
I wonder if anyone could help me :S Basically I am stating my nursing degree in September and I have to undergo an Enhanced disclosure check. I recently received a VERBAL warning from the police however this went no further and no prosecution was put forward. I have bee told by the police not to disclose this but im worried that it will show up as im aware that a lot of things do even if they are verbal warnings?
Should i disclose this? I most definately do not want them to come across this and think I was being dishonest and withdraw my offer :S
I know it sounds silly but im acc losing sleep over this. My verbal warning was for obstruction of police. Please help I have to fill out this form this week
24-Aug-2011 6:37 pm
hie i am in my second year studying mental health nursing and had problems with my son and he reported me to social service for bitting him.now i got a caution for child cruelty.is this going to affect my course.please help me.i really need this career and all i did to my son did it out of love.
13-Aug-2011 0:29 am
I wonder if anyone can help me. I am enrolled on an access to nursing course this year with a view to studying the degree the following year. I am a 37 year old single mum. One and a half years ago, I took some of my daughters clothes back to the shop for an exchange as they did not fit. The shop assistant told me the items could not be exchanged as the receipt had expired. I returned the next day having changed the date on the receipt and got an exchange for all the items. When I returned to the shop months later, the police took me into custody, I confessed and they cautioned me. They told me that if I signed a statement that a caution would only last a few years and was not a criminal offence. I was happy to sign anything to get out of there.
I was and still am humiliated and embarrassed. I have just applied to a nursing agency and my CRB came back as "FRAUD". The agency has not granted me an interview. I am so worried now that I will not be able to pursue a career in nursing.....
2-Aug-2011 11:42 am
can someone please advise me of what convictions and cautions would affect an application as a carer or nurse?
i have obstructing police officer,which they are aware of and this has not affected me
i also have a bind over
been arrested before and had cations and warnings
will this affect me, when my crb comes back?
many thanks
1-Aug-2011 1:57 am
Yes. Yes. and Yes. It will show up for nursing. The best thing to do is to disclosing everything. If you do not and things are found, which they usually are, you are in much bigger trouble. You have chosen a career that involves working with vulnerable populations. This means that you have to show yourself as trustworthy to be in this career. How can you be considered trustworthy if you are not honest about your background? Keep that in mind as that is the way they will see it.
21-Jun-2011 10:25 pm
hiya, i have applyed for a job in a residential home. i am from scotland. i was charged when i was 14 with theft and will wander if this wll show up. it did not go to court and it was dismissed by the proscurator fiscal. please help i go to university next year to study adult nursing. i dont want to do anything else as this is what ive always wanted to do. please help me as i am worried that this will come back on crb check. its been sent away for about a week now and im worried my emlyer will not want me to work for her. thanks for writing back in advance. thanks.
12-Jun-2011 8:37 pm
Any offence will show up on an enhanced CRB and you must always declare it. Speaking as someone who is waiting to be sentenced for a crime, and potentially lose my nursing career, it is very scary - on the other hand, some of the students/learners I have interviewed for positions have failed to declare offences and have such not got the posts as they have shown up on CRB. Openness and Honesty is paramount in nursing - I have been upfront and honest with my employer throughout my arrest, charge and and awaiting trial. Good luck!
12-Jun-2011 3:26 pm
A friend of mine commited a theft offence in 1976/77 and is now 55 years old, she got fined and did community service. Will this show up on an enhanced crb check and will it put her job at risk? she has worked for the same NHS organisation for 20 years but is very worried that this could put her job in jeopardy, I have advised her to declare it on the form, because if it does, then it could be worse because of holding back the information. Any info/advice would be great. Thanks
11-Mar-2011 9:10 pm
I to am in the same situation, I have a 17 year old conviction for drugs. I was shortlisted for a selection day, but after contacting the university because they hadn't mentioned my spent conviction I am now waiting for a decision from the admissions tutor to see if I can still attend, I am hoping they will give me a chance. Will let the forum know of my outcome too. Good luck to the person above with your decision, mine should hopefully be made on tuesday too!!
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