Nursing needs its leaders to respond to FrancisEnhanced CRB check
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27-Jun-2009 4:05 pm
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I am starting an Access to Higher Education in Nursing & Midwifery in September with a view to study for a Nursing degree in 2010.
I am now 30 years old, however when I was 14 or 15 I was cautioned for shoplifting. Obviously this conviction is considered spent now, and I haven't been in trouble since this time, or indeed before this offence.
My questions are as follows:
1.Is there any way to check what is being held on my enhanced CRB record before I begin my studies?
2.Would this be a hindrance when applying for a degree course?
3.In the event I do get accepted by a University and complete my degree, would an event which occurred nearly 20 years ago have a detrimental affect on me gaining employment.
I have been worried sick since I found about this policy, I had been looking forward to a very rewarding and satisfying career in the NHS. Seems a shame something that happened in my misspent youth would stop me in pursuing something I have really developed a desire for recently.
Please could you give me honest answers, as I would be heartbroken if I was to do all the hard work, only to be not be given a chance when it really mattered.
Many thanks.
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15-Jul-2009 4:55 pm
first of all dont panic
if it comes up on a crb you will be asked to explain- even basic traffic offences can show up.
you were cautioned not convicted and it was only once
do let this spoil your dream- go to the educational establishment you are doing your access course and have a chat to the staff there- they will be able to reassure you
good luck
19-Aug-2009 9:20 am
Hi - Some additional information for you to think about...when a CRB check is undertaken you receive a copy. So if you were to gain employment/volunteer in an area where an CRB was required you will know what will show up. Your previous caution WILL be on it...
It is VERY important that when you fill in a CRB application form that you share on this ANY contact that you may have had with the Police; this includes anything that has resulted in a caution or where some sort of record has been made. From an HEI viewpoint failure to disclose pertinent information could potentially bring into doubt your suitability for a course due to the NMC requirements.
HEI's generally have a confidential panel approach to reviewing the disclosures which allows an equitable approach to review your suitability for professional courses. It would be unethical to allow you to undertake any course if your previous history would prevent subsequent employment.
If there are concerns you will be asked to provide an additional supporting statement.
Everyone makes mistakes - learning from them is the key...Good Luck.
14-Dec-2009 3:56 pm
A warning - I failed to declare a really old conviction when applying for a job more than ten years ago - I was told by a reliable but informal source that it was spent and I didn't need to declare it, and CRBs were not invented back then - but it got me into trouble when retrospective CRBs were done and has had a lasting impact on me and on my career. It was an honest error but that was not believed and I have suffered badly because of it - and admittedly because of some spurious beurocracy and jobsworth mentalities.
3-Jan-2010 7:36 pm
...just to add, i knowthe rehab of offenders act (1974) means that spent convictions are essentially dead for all but certain careers. Basically any role that could involve working with children or vulnerable people (nursing falls into this category) requires a full disclosure. I think it should only be legal to mention offences that relate directly to kids, other things (like the shoplifting mentioned above) are irrelevant if spent.
29-Jan-2010 1:23 pm
I have just been offered a job in the NHS working as a clerical assisstant and I need a crb check I am really worried as 4 years ago i rented a room from a guy and one weekend when i got home the house was being ripped apart by undercover police not known to me the lad i rented a room off had lots of drugs under his floor boards, I was arrested as I lived at the property and received a caution he went to jail for many years but I just got a caution as I new nothing about it, will this show on my CRB??? shall I ring my new employer and explain the situation?? I am so worried about it, never been oin trouble for anything else
Thanks
5-Mar-2010 7:47 pm
Hi, yes you definitely do have a criminal record but it will be spent now under the rehabilitation of offenders act. So in one sense you don't have one anymore and don't have to disclose it to most employers but it will show up on an enhanced disclosure, which is used for certain positions such as nursing. We all make mistakes, i hope this doesn't hold you back- just be honest about it. You can explain that you were struggling terribly moneywise etc...
6-Mar-2010 7:53 pm
I need some advise . . .
I have been a staff nurse since 2007 and in febuary I was convicted of common assult.
I have been offered a job and have told the ward manager all about it, I have been honest as I know it will come back on my CRB check.
Do I have to contact the NMC?
7-Mar-2010 10:53 pm
PLEASE HELP ME?
I am 15 and hopefully in september i will be in college and working in a hospital as part of the course, Because of this i need a CRB Check.
This time last year i got into trouble, well not so much trouble - i THINK i got a warning for "being there". The people i was with jumped over a bush. I know i didnt get a caution, and i only had to sign the police officers note book.
Now i have applied and had an interview and didnt think a warning was going to show up so i didnt tell them about it. Im scared it will show up and they will think ive tried to hide it.
1. Will it show up?
2. If i was to ring the police station would they tell me if it was a warning or just "a word"?
3. Should i ring the college and let them know about this?
4. Because i didnt tell them about it will i get into trouble?
PLEASE Help me :(
A confused and worried 15 year old.
15-Mar-2010 6:39 pm
Cautions are criminal records; anything recorded from the age of two will show up. Honesty is always the best policy, lots of people have records – I got one for breaking a window after one too many – If you are trying to convince people it was a mistake, it will be easier, if you start with honesty not dishonesty. I read on the NMC website they allowed an individual with a caution for possession of ecstasy to start on a degree course.
19-Mar-2010 0:25 am
I agree with Geordie, honesty is the best policy,especially with CRB checks. Hiding something that comes to light when the CRB comes through, will make an employer/HEI/College question your honesty, and in the worst case scenario could mean termination of a job or a place on your course. Colleges and HEIs are very used to speaking to students about CRB issues, and are usually understanding and will give you good advice. If you are not sure about what might come up on your CRB, do contact your local police station for advice - they will tell you who to contact.
For the 'confused and worried 15 year old' my advice is to contact your police station and discuss with your college, and exaplin why you didn't mention it at your interview. Best of luck.
27-Jul-2010 1:44 am
About a year ago I had a malicious false allegation of harassment made against me. The police issued a written warning without even speaking to me. After my complaint to the police and proper investigation, the warning was rescinded and the allegation marked as malicious and false in the police records. 3 months later I did an enhanced CRB that came back completely clear. I now had to do another one. It is taking over 3 months and I am now getting seriously paranoid that the false allegation may actually come up because:
1) It has been 3 months
2) CRB say police returned the application to them with a request to forward the application to two more forces. I have changed a few addresses over the years. But only within two forces, not three.
Am I getting sick worried for nothing or should I get very concerned now? Could it be simply that crb did not sent my additional sheet of past addresses? Or an over-keen police officer wants to now disclose the incident?
Many thanks in advance for your responses.
15-Aug-2010 8:26 pm
hi please could someone help i have been offered aprovisional place at uni for learning disabilities nurse i have informed them that i do have several cautions from 16, 17 years ago for assault and one from 2007 for the same thing am worried to death that this will hamper my dream of becoming a nurse.
25-Sep-2010 4:57 pm
Hi I wonder if someone has an answer for me please?
I am wanting to apply for a nursing and also midwifery degree.
About three years ago I was cautioned for possessing a small amount of class a drugs.
I am obviously very ashamed of this.
I know it will show up on on the crb, but do have I completely no hope of being accepted onto any of the courses because of the caution I recieved? I do not have any other cautions or convictions.
I work in a care home and they are aware of my caution. I have good qualifications and good references if I do apply for theses courses.
Any advice or knowledge would be greatly appreciated.
1-Oct-2010 5:09 pm
If you're not on the vetting and barring list (you'd know if you were) then you'll need to discuss it at interview and convince them that it's not an issue. There's no legal reason to prevent you (if you're not on the list) - just a hurdle to overcome at interview.
If you were on the list you wouldn't be able to work in a care home anyway so presumably you're not.
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Stuart
12-Oct-2010 9:27 pm
Hi everyone im really worried and would appriciate your help. 5 months ago i received a police caution for a common assault (battery) which happened outside a nightclub. Basically i was begging the bouncer to let me in coz my friend had a birthday party in that club; as far as i remember his colleagues were laughing as i was begging him to let me him and one of them told him sthing cant but remember what it was and the bouncer suddenly held me on my shoulders and was dragging me out of the queue. i panicked coz i never been hold like this by someone before,i tried to get away but couldn't then i hit him twice on his shoulder to let me go but unfortunately the police where just outside the club patrolling looking for any sign of trouble and they saw me doing that. They came to me and put me in their car then drove me to the police station. I was chocked and was crying all night as i was very very sad of what happened. i didnt have any intention to hurt someone on the street or anywhere, im a good person and dont take joy in hurting others but that night it was as if i was dreaming. I requested to talk to a police officer that arrested me but other officer who was in the office promised me if i give my Id and my stuff they could let me speak to him but all was a lie, after i gave them my ID and stuff they asked him to leave. i could see the other officer's eyes that he really wanted to talk to me but what can he do when his boss asks him to leave?(never mind). I cried all night in the cell and was given a blanket to cover myself. I noticed that my finger nail was bleeding and tried to cut a piece of of blanket to wrap tightly my finger nail, a police officer walks in and took the blanket away from me. I apologised but was cautioned for distroying the blanket. This is what happened to me and as im talking im on my final year of nursing and uni has requested me to undergo a enhanced CRB check as usual. im scared. I have decided to tell the uni about it but not now as im mentally very sad. Do u think that i have a chance to stay on the course after all this happened? I dont want to waste all the teaching i have received and relationship with clients was an amazing experience for me and i have a good heart ( i dont want to waste it neither) Note: sorry for the long post. Many thanks to you all in advance x
15-Oct-2010 10:27 am
I had a caution from 4 years ago for a very small possession of a class a drug, I got offered a job in the nhs and needed a crb but did not declare that I had a caution as I had moved out of the address and area where I received the caution so silly me thought it might not show up but it did. I received my crb back with possession of a class a drug and a copy was sent to my employer, the next day I received a call that I needed to go in for a meeting with my new bosses, when I arrived they said we needed to call you in to chat about a few things before we can give u a start date. Friends had told me to lie about the caution and say it was someone elses but honesty is the best policy. I had 3 of my bosses sitting there in the meeting and when they said we have called u in to chat about a few things, I just said I think I know what this is about and then I mentioned my crb they just asked me to explain, so I just told them it was something I tried when I was younger, I have a nice boyfriend and moved away from that town to start a new life and get a new job, also told them how my friends had told me to lie about the caution but I said im not going to lie about it. Anyway they was more then happy that I told the truth and said they had checked all my references over and over all my applications to see if they could ever find a break in service but they couldnt and said everything was perfect but the crb and what I did when I was younger is not there concern as it has never seemed to affect my work. Maybe everyone is not so understanding, I had so many sleepless nights over this and was so made up they understood that im not a bad person for something I did years ago.
Hope this helps you all, try not to worry to much, just be honest and everything will work out good, like it did for me.
30-Dec-2010 3:17 pm
I am currently working as a nurse in a hospital Trust I have worked in for ten years now. Unfortunately, whilst on a night out with a friend last month I ended up hitting her and she has pressed charges. She knows the implications of this on my employment, as she initially told me she wouldn't press charges and to leave her alone. I know she is short of money and will most probably be seeking compensation after this. I obviously regret hitting her, as until that moment we'd been very close friends and I'd always been there to help her out - financially as well. I have told my manager and hope to get a caution, as I will obviously plead guilty. A nurse cannot go around assaulting members of the public, however, so I naturally expect to lose my job and probably career. I am currently looking for other jobs I can do that don't require a CRB check, away from nursing.
27-Jan-2011 5:54 pm
Well it looks like anyone who has ever had any criminal record will have their records kept. If it was for a warning you might never have had it passed to the Police national computer. The longer ago the more likely this is. However the reports below show that records more than 20 years old even for shoplifting that SHOULD have been deleted under old legislation were NOT in some casese deleted but stepped down (still visible to the CRB) It appears that from 2005 odd onwards if your records were not deleted they will not now be deleted but may be stepped down.
The report is scary to read that the police wish to keep all records rather than delete them. A sad situation where an idiot action when you were 11 can stay with you. looks like people may have to live with the embarrassment and tell employers they stole a chocolate bar!
http://www.informationtribunal.gov.uk/DBFiles/Decision/i200/Chief_Constables_v_IC_final_decision_2007081_web_entry[1].pdf
Data Subject HP
66. HP was born on 18th October 1967. On 2nd April 1984 HP was convicted of an offence of theft
at the Hull Juvenile Court. He was fined £15. The retained details of the offence are that he
had removed items from a display in Marks & Spencer in Whitefriargate, Hull at 9.25 hours on
2nd March 1984. The offence was committed along with one other. At the time of the offence
and date of conviction HP was 16 years old. The offence was disclosed on an enhanced
disclosure certificate dated 7th July 2006. HP had applied for a position as a care officer with
the Hull City Council.
67. On 16th September 2006 HP made a complaint to the Commissioner’s office (ICO). In his
complaint he said he had been informed by his employer that an enhanced disclosure
certificate had revealed his conviction, which he had not previously disclosed and he was
informed by his manager that he may be disciplined. The ICO corresponded with the First
Appellant in respect of the conviction between the 19th December 2006 and 8th August 2007.
He asked for it to be stepped down or deleted from the PNC. The First Appellant agreed to
step down the conviction but not to delete it. The ICO issued a preliminary enforcement notice
on the 9th July 2007 and an enforcement notice on 8th August 2007. The notice required the
First Appellant to erase the conviction data relating to HP held on the PNC database. The
Commissioner said that the retention of the information contravened the third and fifth data
protection principles. He said that he had taken into account whether the contravention of the
principles had caused or were likely to cause HP damage or distress and had taken into
account the provisions of Article 8 of ECHR.
68. There was no other data revealed on the enhanced disclosure certificate and there was no
evidence before us that there was any other data, either hard or soft intelligence held on the
PNC by the time of the hearing which was 24 years after the date of the 1984 conviction.
Data Subject SP
69. SP was born on 4th April 1988. On 30th June 2001 SP was reprimanded for an offence of
common assault by the Second Appellant. The offence was committed on 30th June 2001.
The details of the offence are that SP had punched a 15 year old girl to the ground, kicked her
and caused her injury in Wolgaston Way, Penkridge, Staffordshire. SP was 13 years old at the
time of the reprimand and offence. The reprimand was disclosed on an enhanced disclosure
certificate dated 1st September 2006 to Four Seasons Health Care to whom SP had applied
for a post as a care assistant. It had been revealed to her employer after she had commenced
employment in September 2006. The only other hard or soft intelligence revealed on the PNC
was that SP’s DNA and fingerprints were held.
70. SP complained to the ICO on 14th November 2006 that she had been informed by the police
officer who reprimanded her that the matter would be removed by the time she was 18 years
of age provided she kept out of trouble. This information was consistent with the police
weeding or retention rules laid down at the time and the Appellants presented no evidence to
us which contradicted SP’s assertion. In evidence before the Tribunal SP said that she was
devastated to learn that the reprimand was still recorded and had not been deleted because,
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in effect, it meant that she would be unable to undertake training for caring roles, which was
her chosen career path, because of the retaining of her criminal record.
71. The ICO corresponded with the Second Appellant between 6th January 2007 and 6th August
2007 and requested the Second Appellant to step down the reprimand or delete it from the
PNC database. The Second Appellant agreed to step down the reprimand but not to delete it
from the PNC database. In a letter to the Commissioner dated 10th January 2007 Detective
Superintendent Gary Linton explained that “this decision is in keeping with ACPO policy dated
7th December 2006 that forces should not weed any records that would have fallen to weed
under the old weeding rules.” The Respondent issued a preliminary enforcement notice on 9th
July 2007 and an enforcement notice on 16th August 2007. In the enforcement notice the
Respondent required the Second Appellant to erase the data of the reprimand from the PNC
database on the grounds that it breached the first, third and fifth data protection principles.
The Commissioner believed that the first data protection principle was breached because of
the representation which had been made to SP that it would be removed after 5 years. The
Commissioner said he had taken into account that distress had been caused or was likely and
6-Feb-2011 7:52 pm
Hi all, I am hoping that you can give me your thoughts on my current situation. I have got an interview at uni this week to do a degree in adult nursing, trouble is I was a very horrible teenager and did things i regret so much. At the age of 14 i was convicted of common assault, and at 15 i was convicted of a much more serious offence of section 20 wounding; which is anything from hitting a person and leaving scar to using a wepon, I only hit the girl. I am nearly 26 now, do you think they will relise I have changed and havent been in trouble since i was 15? or does this sound just as bad as what it did over 10 years ago? Please give me your honest opinions.
Thanks
11-Mar-2011 7:05 pm
I am in pretty much the same boat. I have a drink driving conviction from 4 and a half years ago. I have declared all and had to give all the information of the conviction to a panel at the university. I find out on tuesday 15 th March, so will let the forum know how i get on. I think honesty is the best policy and hope all goes well for everybody else in this situation.
11-Mar-2011 9:10 pm
I to am in the same situation, I have a 17 year old conviction for drugs. I was shortlisted for a selection day, but after contacting the university because they hadn't mentioned my spent conviction I am now waiting for a decision from the admissions tutor to see if I can still attend, I am hoping they will give me a chance. Will let the forum know of my outcome too. Good luck to the person above with your decision, mine should hopefully be made on tuesday too!!
12-Jun-2011 3:26 pm
A friend of mine commited a theft offence in 1976/77 and is now 55 years old, she got fined and did community service. Will this show up on an enhanced crb check and will it put her job at risk? she has worked for the same NHS organisation for 20 years but is very worried that this could put her job in jeopardy, I have advised her to declare it on the form, because if it does, then it could be worse because of holding back the information. Any info/advice would be great. Thanks
12-Jun-2011 8:37 pm
Any offence will show up on an enhanced CRB and you must always declare it. Speaking as someone who is waiting to be sentenced for a crime, and potentially lose my nursing career, it is very scary - on the other hand, some of the students/learners I have interviewed for positions have failed to declare offences and have such not got the posts as they have shown up on CRB. Openness and Honesty is paramount in nursing - I have been upfront and honest with my employer throughout my arrest, charge and and awaiting trial. Good luck!
21-Jun-2011 10:25 pm
hiya, i have applyed for a job in a residential home. i am from scotland. i was charged when i was 14 with theft and will wander if this wll show up. it did not go to court and it was dismissed by the proscurator fiscal. please help i go to university next year to study adult nursing. i dont want to do anything else as this is what ive always wanted to do. please help me as i am worried that this will come back on crb check. its been sent away for about a week now and im worried my emlyer will not want me to work for her. thanks for writing back in advance. thanks.
1-Aug-2011 1:57 am
Yes. Yes. and Yes. It will show up for nursing. The best thing to do is to disclosing everything. If you do not and things are found, which they usually are, you are in much bigger trouble. You have chosen a career that involves working with vulnerable populations. This means that you have to show yourself as trustworthy to be in this career. How can you be considered trustworthy if you are not honest about your background? Keep that in mind as that is the way they will see it.
2-Aug-2011 11:42 am
can someone please advise me of what convictions and cautions would affect an application as a carer or nurse?
i have obstructing police officer,which they are aware of and this has not affected me
i also have a bind over
been arrested before and had cations and warnings
will this affect me, when my crb comes back?
many thanks
13-Aug-2011 0:29 am
I wonder if anyone can help me. I am enrolled on an access to nursing course this year with a view to studying the degree the following year. I am a 37 year old single mum. One and a half years ago, I took some of my daughters clothes back to the shop for an exchange as they did not fit. The shop assistant told me the items could not be exchanged as the receipt had expired. I returned the next day having changed the date on the receipt and got an exchange for all the items. When I returned to the shop months later, the police took me into custody, I confessed and they cautioned me. They told me that if I signed a statement that a caution would only last a few years and was not a criminal offence. I was happy to sign anything to get out of there.
I was and still am humiliated and embarrassed. I have just applied to a nursing agency and my CRB came back as "FRAUD". The agency has not granted me an interview. I am so worried now that I will not be able to pursue a career in nursing.....
24-Aug-2011 6:37 pm
hie i am in my second year studying mental health nursing and had problems with my son and he reported me to social service for bitting him.now i got a caution for child cruelty.is this going to affect my course.please help me.i really need this career and all i did to my son did it out of love.
29-Aug-2011 4:08 pm
I wonder if anyone could help me :S Basically I am stating my nursing degree in September and I have to undergo an Enhanced disclosure check. I recently received a VERBAL warning from the police however this went no further and no prosecution was put forward. I have bee told by the police not to disclose this but im worried that it will show up as im aware that a lot of things do even if they are verbal warnings?
Should i disclose this? I most definately do not want them to come across this and think I was being dishonest and withdraw my offer :S
I know it sounds silly but im acc losing sleep over this. My verbal warning was for obstruction of police. Please help I have to fill out this form this week
2-Jan-2012 9:53 am
HI,I WORK WITH THE NHS,i was accused of theft 4months ago and the police was involved they had no evidence as is over 4 months and the police are still investigating,now have gotten another job and my employer needs to carry out a crb on me am so scared if any thing will come out if as the case have not been charged and they dont have any proove,can anyone please highlight me as am so scared if it will turn out on my crb check
2-Jan-2012 12:15 pm
Hi i was wondering if anyone could help me, i am due to begin an adult nursing degree and i have currently been waiting 4 weeks on my police check and it still hasnt been returned to me, i am sure everything will be ok on it as i have never been in any sort of trouble, my only problem is i moved house 4 and a half years ago and i cant remember the exact dates so i just put the month and year- it may even be a month out i.e i put march but it could have been february, will this go against me when they are tracing me at previous addresses? it may sound ridiculous to some people but i am very worried :(
8-Mar-2012 11:34 pm
Hi everyone,
Just updating you on my post of 2010 regarding a caution i received while studying a nursing course ( Caution for Battery and damage of a blanket).
2years ego i was really frustrated and low in mood because of the caution i received from the police. To be honest i understand the government trying to reduce crime rate but i don't think it is positive for people to be cautioned and details of it to come up on an enhanced CRB check all the individual's life. If the government believe that people learn from the mistake then why leave a punishment stay on the person's CRB all his/her life? Doesn't this going to make someone of us even worst since we already know that we got a caution that is never going to be removed from our CRB? is this really lowering the crime rate? In my opinion since receiving a caution, i feel scared to commit a crime but on the other hand i feel like people are looking at me as if i was a stranger, a violent person while i'm not. I'm a loving and caring person. Everybody makes mistake and so do i.
I learned from this experience but it pointless for it to stay on my CRB all my life and hunting me as if i was a bad person. why the government does not even try to protect those not repeating crime to be treated equally? e.g.no disclosing what we have done years ego but only if this pose a "high or very high" risk to vulnerable people, im talking here people put in a barred list. Anyway, i was just trying to explain how i feel.
By the way, after receiving the police caution i disclosed it to the university as being honest leads people to trust you. I sincerely was sorry what i had done, it was out of my character and everybody makes mistake. The uni summoned me to a panel where i had to present them with a good character reference. The panel examined the circumstance leading to the caution and decided that i should be kept on the course but in one condition, writing an essay on nurses' behavior outside and inside the clinical setting. I felt so relieved on the day because i thought it was the end of my career. I appreciate what they have done to me and promised that i will not commit a crime again.
I'm now a qualified nurse and i'm happy to take on responsibility as a nurse and devote my life to help vulnerable patients to recover and live a healthy and happy life. Note: I'm now doing some job hunt and will keep you up to date with whats going on with employers when i will have to disclose the caution to them. Pray for me!
Do not give up if you get a caution, the best policy is to disclose it. Be honest and keep hope alive. Bear in mind 1/4 of the population will have a police caution so people that will judge you and don't give you an opportunity will probably end up with a caution someday because nobody knows what the future holds ( I don't wish this to happen to anyone!)
Thanks for reading this,
With love xx
30-Mar-2012 5:02 pm
Hi All,
I am a 2nd year student nurse. My student loan and bursary was stopped just at the beginning of my 2nd year because i changed universities. Due to hardship, i did some work for an agency but i didn't inform the housing benefits people because I thought it wasn't a 'proper' job and i was going to stop when my bursary got sorted. Anyway, they've asked me to pay back an overpayment of £300 and they want to give me a caution but i don't know whether to accept it or not. They say if i don't accept it, they will take me to court. I'm also scared that though its not a police caution, if I accept it, it may affect my studies or future job prospects. Please advise me. Don't know what to do.
30-Mar-2012 5:07 pm
Hi All,
I am a 2nd year student nurse. My student loan and bursary was stopped just at the beginning of my 2nd year because i changed universities. Due to hardship, i did some work for an agency but i didn't inform the housing benefits people because I thought it wasn't a 'proper' job and i was going to stop when my bursary got sorted. Anyway, they've asked me to pay back an overpayment of £300 and they want to give me a caution but i don't know whether to accept it or not. They say if i don't accept it, they will take me to court. I'm also scared that though its not a police caution, if I accept it, it may affect my studies or future job prospects. Please advise me. Don't know what to do.
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