Enrolled Nurse Conversion Courses
29-Jun-2009 11:03 pm
Can anyone be of help to me? I have been away from Nursing for several years now, but was an Enrolled Nurse.
I am very interested in undertaking a conversion course I live in the North West close to Wigan. Can anyone help me as I have not found any information on the web. Do these courses still exist if so what would your advice to me be? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
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26-Sep-2009 1:56 am
I too am an enrolled nurse working for the NHS. I have tried many sources to find a suitable route to convert to level 1 nursing and the answer from universities is that I would have to do a further two years as a student nurse in order to convert - there are also funding issues as trusts are unlikely to fund an already qualified nurse. The NMC takes the short term view that as they have already stated that level 2 nurses (enrolled nurses) should be treated the same regarding wages etc as level 1 nurses and therefore there isn't an issue. However they fail to mention that remaining at level 2 rules out chances of promotion. If you find a route to convert whilst working I would love to hear it.
27-Sep-2009 1:00 pm
The university of the West of Scotland , Paisley campus still runs a conversion course, but this will discontinue in a few years. Tel: 0141 848 3000 and ask to be put throught to Mary Milligan the course co-ordinator. Good luck.
P.S The course can be done by distance learning and its worth doing.
27-Sep-2009 11:12 pm
Thank you so much for your help - will do that.
25-Oct-2009 8:25 pm
I to under took a conversion course 2005 through the university of salford the reading material alone cost nearly £1000 which if my trust had not payed for I would not of been able to complete. Even though at times it was hard and a ball ache at the end of the course I felt I had achieved some thing, and all job opportunities that I can now apply for without fear of rejection. I hope you find what you are looking for and complete your goals as I did. I have also got the material to under take the conversion course which I am currently selling. Which ever path you take I hope you achieve it good luck
Location: Throughout UK
27-Oct-2009 1:45 pm
I don't understand how it cost £1,000 for reading materials. If you started nursing from scratch you wouldn't need to pay that much - not unless you wanted to.
Why was it so dear?
27-Oct-2009 1:55 pm
Just a quick update - emailed Glamorgan and West Scotland including one to Mary Millington but got no reply. Salford doesn't do the course any more so I am back to square one. It really is ridiculous that an opportunity to convert is not out there - I really don't want to go back and repeat two years as a student nurse - but that seems to be the only option that is available - impossible for me with a morgage and family to support.
28-Oct-2009 10:37 pm
Sorry I ment the course and the reading materials were nearly £1000 not just the books hope you find your course you are looking for try manchester uni I know they have done them but not sure if they are still doing them
6-Nov-2009 11:45 am
You can also continue nursing by involving in other nursing courses. There are lots of nursing courses available. Check it out over here – nursingschoolsu(dot)com
10-Nov-2009 10:55 am
Guardian Careers are holding a live Q&A about NHS careers tomorrow between 1-4pm - the forum is also open now for advance postings.
We have experts on there from the NHS, universities around the country and from careers guidance websites - I'm sure someone would be able to offer you some really useful advice.
The site is here - http://tiny.cc/KuidE
Hope this helps
16-Nov-2009 6:10 pm
I too am a level 2 registered nurse (as the NMC please to call us enrolled nurses now) working in the nhs. You can gian 120 credits to enable you to access degree level modules via the APEL route at most universities I believe. According to the NMC this will then make you the same as anyone on Level 1 and entitle you to the same pay and job opportunities, although you will not be on level 1 of the register. I have done this through Plymouth uni and have just completed a post reg. degree. Due to the confusion which still appears to exist however, I am now thinking of converting. Glamorgan do run a course and the next to start is in December.
20-Nov-2009 3:10 pm
Well there does seem to be an enormous amount of confusion as to what is and what is not the same! Maybe it is all in my head as those I have spoken to seem to think. I am level 2 working in NHS ( and have to say am paid and respected the same as any other band 5) have been looking for a suitable course for 4 years since returning to nursing. Yes!!! I have found not 1 but 2 and was really excited. Now not so since finding out that my NHS Trust cannot support me at all. I have been to every person that would listen only to be told that there is no funding for a course whereby no one stands to gain. I was asked each time WHY? do you want to do it?
Well now why? Is it because I so often see job advertisements stating you must be level 1 or the guidelines from NMC stating you need to be level 1 to manage a care home or be a sign off mentor for student nurses or certain university courses that state level 1 is required such as nurse prescribing? Yes I think I want to do it because there ARE restrictions made!
I already have BSc (Hons) Degree in Health Studies and several post graduate courses but YES I do feel reluctant to apply for promotion because of the fear of knock backs due to level 2 status. I now feel very de motivated about any sort of professional development courses and have come to think just plod along doing what you do well and YES what I love doing even if it is at level 2!
20-Nov-2009 6:24 pm
I couldn't agree more, I feel just the same. I too am starting to wonder if I'm imagening the confusion and need to undertake conversion. I am going to fund my own conversion (if I can find a suitable one), I don't agree with this but as you so rightly say no one will pay if not to there benefit, which is very shortsighted as it probably would benefit our employers. This is made all the more difficult as we didn't pay for our training in the first place and now they say we should do this!!I have a place on the course in Glamorgan but unfortunately cannot now attend, so am faced with finding another. I believe Worcester are running one soon. I would be interested to know where in the country you work?
23-Nov-2009 5:42 pm
I have eventually got in touch with Glamorgan and as I live in England the cost of the course is £7,500 - there appears to be no courses running in England - I am thinking of contacting my university to see if they will run it and I am sure they will if they know how many would attend - the cost of the course normally is £3,000 so I can imagine my university will charge similar amount - if you are interested can you let me know as I can then take it to the University to show that an Enrolled Nurse conversion course is needed. Thanks
23-Nov-2009 6:43 pm
I don't understand why you think it costs £7,500, it should be somewhere around £3,000. Obviously there will be travelling and accomodation too, but I can't see how it would cost that.
I am very interested in a course in England but it very much depends where, as Glamorgan is quite a trek for me too.
Which is your local uni?
24-Nov-2009 9:02 am
University of Teesside - I got a prospectus of the course form Glamorgan and because i live in England that was the fee - I am hoping that the course will be by distance learning so there will be no need to go to the University or only maybe for a summer school which is how the enrolled courses are run at Glamorgan and in Scotland
24-Nov-2009 9:31 pm
Thanks for that, I live in Devon so Teeside too far for me to travel. Funny about Glamorgan, as I too live in England that is not the price I was quoted. I too will need a distance course, as Glamorgan is, except for the compulsary week at the begining. If you hear of anything please post here.
I'm sure there must be plenty of people in the same situation as us.
24-Nov-2009 10:01 pm
How much were u quoted in glamorgan please?
24-Nov-2009 10:01 pm
I will ring them tomorrow do you have their number - I contacted them by email.