Hello, Can anyone be of help to me? I have been away from Nursing for several years now, but was an Enrolled Nurse. I am very interested in undertaking a conversion course I live in the North West close to Wigan. Can anyone help me as I have not found any information on the web. Do these courses still exist if so what would your advice to me be? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Hi I am an enrolled nurse currently just about to finish my degree I have read the comments even though they are from 2009. I too am increasingly frustrated having returned to nursing in 2009. How are we supposed to convert to a level 1 if there are no courses. I have championed the cause through my trust and have been told if I can get 10 people or more wanting to convert the local university will look at the possibility of running a conversion course so anybody out there who wants to do it there is a massive opportunity not to be missed other than that I have been told that I would have to do 2 plus years pre reg which is absolutely ridiculous. Please contact me email email@example.com. I am also writing to the NMC to see if they can assist me in gaining all level 2 nurses details or writing to them on my behalf. So spread the word please we can make this happen. Us level 2 nurses are worth a great deal.
hi Jan Not sure if my post went there I was just wondering why your course had not been an enjoyable one. I worked in higher education for a few years and wondered if perhaps it was something to do with house the course was run. Was it unorganised or did you feel it was too much cramped in.
I am currently doing a conversion course at Greenwich university in London...there are not many around...have a look..but please email me at..firstname.lastname@example.org.....im happy to share imfo...though have to say its not been a good experience.....not sure if there are many other courses around
No wonder Enrolled nurses are disheartened. I trained in the early 80's and worked as a nurse for 16 years. I decided to leave and pursue another profession which i did for 14 years. I then decided that i would like to return to nursing but wanted to do the conversion. What a palava. i tried paisley Uni and got nowhere. I tried to get mary Middleton who didnt have the decency to email me back...not once. I also tried the caledonian uni and they werent much better. In the interim time i enrolled to do the 'back to nursing' at Stirling as i had let my registration lapse. It was my understanding that your registration has to be up to date to do conversion course and you also have to be working. i was excepted for stirling but then decided against it as i thought it might be better to apply to Uni to do the whole 3 year degree course. it seems that for most this is the only option...though a very costly and time consuming one. As it happens my husbands job took us to the U.S and i will be applying to do the degree course there. And guess what if i then return to the U.K i will be met by even more barriers as even having a nursing degree doesnt neccesarily open doors. If you want to work abroad each country makes it difficult for entry. Even degree nurses wanting to move to the U.K....sorry for the rant. As for Enrolled nurses it seems that you dont get any credit for your diploma or your 'years' experience.
There are coursed but they are usually distance learning,I did a conversion course in 2000 and was paid by my trust,there is funds available you just have to keep pestering as I did recently to get finding for a PND Course.good luck
Wow, I feel quite disheartened by the whole debate. I left nursing a few years ago and now have decided I miss doing it. I thought about converting from enrolled to registered but not sure I could afford it as I already have a degree in Science so there would be no help at all available
I am an Enrolled nurse, been qualified for 21 years, I work in a nursing home, would also like to do a distance learning course, but sadly there are none available. The only option is to start back and retrain from scratch. I do enjoy my job but it is impossible for promotion, to apply for any other posts as they all state level 1. It is very frustrating. I think the NMC could do more for us, if there is 4000 EN s still on the register I am sure there would be quite a lot given the opportunity to convert. I keep myself up too date with various courses.
Hi, I am still a Enrolled Nurse level 2 registred nurse and work as a level 7 nurse in Chalfont St.Peter. I have successfully completed anvanced care in epilespy and mentorship in practice. I feel I have no option but to try to some how complete a conversion course as I have 20 years still to work. I think my options are to complete a open university full degree course or try another option! Has anyone got any advice for me please. Thanks Christine Crawford
We were referring to a message posted by 'anonymous' on 24 April 2012 stating that there is an Enrolled Nurse Conversion Course advertised within Greenwich University for this year which, when viewed neither of us could find within their online prospectus?!!
FYI - Google didn't throw anything relevant up at that time either.......? ;-)
I originally did SRN training, starting in 1978 but due to several unfortunate circumstances, failed the final exam. This was immediately after the automatic conversion to SEN stopped (I had to sit the SEN final exam). I can honestly say it hasn't hindered me at all. I have never encountered any prejudice and have always been considered a 'nurse' like any other qualified staff. I didn't ever consider the option of converting because I have never had the need to. Perhaps I've been lucky with my choice of jobs, and in the twilight years of my nursing career I am glad of the choices I made. I work very comfortably in general practice with a G grade and intend to stay there.
Hi, I converted my registration between 2008 and 2011. Prior to that I had several conversations with the NMC. It was during one of those conversations, when I suggested that there were loads of EN's who hadn't converted and how unfair it was that the 18 month conversion course was no longer available, that I was told there were only about 4000 EN's currently on the register. I don't think there is any hard evidence of that number except on the actual register.
I agree with you wholeheartedly and have too read the replies with interest. I qualified in 1977 and have had a satisfying career in nursing ever since. True I have not risen to the dizzy heights and have mainly worked in the private sector but I have never felt the need to convert!!!! I am caring for people, nursing them and even though the dreaded paperwork is creeping in I am proud of my old fashioned training and would not like to be doing my nurse training these days. Since when did having a degree have anything to do with sitting by someone’s side giving them comfort when they are in pain? Or being able to dress their wound with care or provide compassion? Nursing has lost its way and I am only grateful that I had my career when I did. Having been a patient recently too I have also seen it from the other side and remain convinced that degrees DO NOT make good nurses and if we are back to the single tier of nursing caring and compassion are no longer requisites of the nursing profession.
I was interested to read the replies. I have been an enrolled nurse for nearly 35 years, and have no intention of converting in the twilight years of my career! I have an interesting and reasonably responsible job in general practice with a decent grade and have never felt the need to convert. I would be fascinated to know just how many ENs there are left in the UK-anyone have an idea?
Have read this all with interest and looked at e petition, sadly only 20 have signed it! So either there are not many EN's out there which I doubt or the majority are leaving it to the few! My suggestion would be to (and yes it's going to be a lot of work) but we all pay union fees, so they could help, would firstly survey all ENs to find out who actually wants to convert as I am sure there are many who don't. With this information a proposal is put together and sent to universities who previously ran courses to start them again. The university I converted at stopped through lack of applicants! Now to be shot down in flames, I don't agree that RN2 should be treated the same as RN1 when it comes to more senior posts BUT I do think they should all be given the opportunity to convert if they want to!!
I see that the NMC is considering raising fees. If that happens all level 2 nurses should write and complain that they are doing nothing to help us to get conversion courses. It is ok for them to say that you can apply for any level position but so many are now stating level 1 can only apply for jobs. I am so annoyed that they continue to receive our fees but do nothing to help us. I do have a job as an Occupational Health Nurse but even applying for a job on NHS Direct and answering telephones they only want level 1 nurses. I have been working as a nurse for over 35 years and think that all the experience I have should allow me to answer a telephone.
Just signed e-petition. I have kept up with this discussion for a while now. In fact did a return to practice in UK last year after getting info here. I live in Ireland. I would like to to a conversion so as to enable me to register and practice here. That is why I did RTP. Have worked in health social care sector for a good few years now and have a health related degree and Masters in Health Promotion. I only work in a clinical support work role here as level RN not recognised. Loved my RTP and being on the wards again. I would come over to UK again if I could get a course. Lot of Enrolled Nurses living in Ireland did their conversions when they were available enabling them to register in Ireland. Government even gave a grant subject to the enrolled nurses returning to work in Irish Health Care System.
So pleased for your friend, it shows WE CAN do it and we will have a go! Really pleased for them. Don't give up folks - the last remaining SEN's/ EN's/ENG's/ Level 2's ...whatever!!... are very special and we know it!! ;-). x
I've signed the e-petition. However, can I point out that the info it contains is a slightly incorrect. It states that there are Level 2 RN to RN Level 1 courses available in Wales, there are not. The University of Glamorgan discontinued running the only course on offer in wales from November 2010. I know this as I emailed them, they replied claiming that after a meeting they held in June 2011 they had decided to no longer offer this course and this would remain the position unless they were instructed otherwise by the NMC.
I feel like a 2nd class citizan at times, been nursing for 35 years and it means nothing. I know I can do a band 6 job with my eyes half shut, but not given the chance. Well its their loss everyone not ours.
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