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Is it about time we scrap the NMC?

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11-Oct-2009 9:43 am

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Marc Evans

Marc Evans

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30-Oct-2009 0:36 am

I think it needs to be improved but not scrapped. there needs to be a system in place to prevent exessive poor care from happening and to push out poor practice. I think if they improve it then it will be much better and more respected.

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30-Oct-2009 8:54 pm

Trusts and individual hospitals already have those systems Marc, (or should do).

The facts are that the NMC do very little for our practice that we wouldn't do anyway.

It does not earn or deserve the excessive fees that we pay it every year.

It is an organisation that a) does not have the respect of its members (even though that word suggests we have a choice in the matter) and b) does not have the professions best interests at heart.

We need a NEW union, a REAL union, one that looks after OUR interests as a profession.

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31-Oct-2009 1:42 pm

Scrap the NMC? What's the debate? It's rubbish - a failing organisation run by jobsworths whose only consistent quality has been the ability to fail nurses. Nurses need an organisation that will lead, protect, drive improvements and reduce poor practice. The NMC does none of those and is more of a liability than an asset.

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31-Oct-2009 3:03 pm

Exactly anonymous, but the debate is that in general nurses are either to apathetic or to disbanded to do anything about views like ours, then there are the views of those of the first poster who are keeping the status quo too.

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7-Nov-2009 1:27 pm

Nurses are as individual as they are numerous. Nurses need to take control and take responsibility, otherwise they will continue to be mis-managed and trodden on, and will continue to have among their ranks some of the worst nurses I have ever encountered who are untouchable because of the poor management and lack of cohesion offered by bodies like the NMC, and some of the best nurses who will leave for the same reason.

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13-Nov-2009 8:05 am

How long will we have the debate about the NMC before anything changes? Scrap it, the sooner the better. It fails nurses time and time again.

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20-Nov-2009 10:01 am

I see one of the NMC clan is to represent nurses in Europe. Given that many nurses have no faith or trust in the NMC and it has consistently demonstrated its ineptitude and lack of organisation and poor understanding of issues for nurses, how can this be appropriate? Nurses are leaving the profession - good nurses - because of the NMC. So we ask one of them to represent us?

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25-Nov-2009 8:17 am

Is no-one else outraged that the NMC represent nurses in Europe? It is appalling that this organisation, which has demonstrated numerous times that it is unfit for purpose and in which nurses have little or no confidence having been disillusioned by its arrogance and poor performance, is representing nurses views and needs.

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1-Dec-2009 5:47 pm

The apathy about the NMC is typical of the response of those bullied to the bully. Nurses are trodden down by the arrogance of the NMC and the futility of challanging that. The result is inevitably apathy.

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16-Dec-2009 0:52 am

The N.M.C. is nothing more than a money generating organisation, they are an even bigger rip-off than our MPs and their expenses. Yearly renewals ? The reason behind this is to ensure what exactly, with Annual PDP and KSF progressions why do we need additional supervision. We as a profession are encouraged to reflect on our practice, well I have and a bigger bunch of wasters, that do nothing for me other than to tell me that my renewal date is due. Shame they can't take a leaf out of the Police Federation or the Teachers Unions at least they can be seen to be doing something and their members pay and conditions reflect their worth. The NMC costs me money at a time when the government wishes to freeze my pay, for the privilege of caring...

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16-Dec-2009 7:28 am

I think it is about time we as a profession stopped letting the government use emotional blackmail against us and go on strike. And we shouldn't go back to work until the NMC is scrapped and we have a new union with teeth in it's place, and we have the pay and conditions that reflect OUR worth as a profession!

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29-Dec-2009 4:20 pm

This isn't about striking, it's about the inept and self-serving NMC that takes our money and repays us with.....well, what? Scrap them? We should be suing them!!!!

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30-Dec-2009 11:41 am

NMC who are they??? what have they ever done for me in 30 years????? Nothing but gosh they keep taking my money...... I could have had a good holiday!!!!

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30-Dec-2009 5:57 pm

What they have done for you is: take your money, set up a weighted and inept system, provided a cushy number for a few "managers" who appear to be unable to manage their own members, perpetuate a failed and fallible system that prefers to persecute a courageous nurse bent on flagging up poor practice (which included neglect and cruelty) rather than support her because of her lack of choices and organisational failure, and fail even to administer their own protocols and policies effectively. Sue them!!!!!!!!!

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4-Jan-2010 3:14 pm

Are the NMC the only guilty party here ? The RCN has been working very closely with the NMC for years and has known all along about its ineptitude and bullying, as well as its secretive procedures whose purposes serve nobody but themselves, certainly not "the public" who they profess to protect

The RCN has also known that the NMC has hounded nurses out of the profession using techniques that would not look out of place in Stalinist Russia or the witchunts conducted by the House of Unamerican Activities in 1950s USA. Their legal department sees these injustices on an almost daily basis But what have they done about it? Nothing. As long as the NMC are made out to be "the bad guys" they are quite content to tut tut about it in private, as its well renumerated "legal team" are more interested in lining its own pockets while the chaos continues.

It was not the RCN or nurses themselves that complained to a Scottish MP, which led to a full govermental review of the NMC and its procedures. It was an NMC employee. I find that very telling.

Senior managers at the NMC may have resigned as a consequence of the government investigation and they are now being closely monitored by the CHRE. And am sure the RCN are privatly saying "about time".

But if they knew about it, which they most certainly did, why were they not the ones petitioning to have the NMC investigated by the department of health years ago ?

We are not in a position to boycott paying the NMC as things currently stand. However we can withold the far more substantial monthly fee that the RCN seems to expect for a service they cannot, will not or refuse to provide.

My direct debit will be cancelled as of this month - I suggest anyone reading this do likewise until they wake up and listen.

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4-Jan-2010 5:15 pm

Good for you - a non-aggressive but powerful action. These bodies have been incompetent for too long without consequences.

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10-Jan-2010 12:22 pm

I am surprised that there are not more outraged postings on here! I have yet to meet or coerrespond with anyone with a good word to say for the NMC, but plenty who have suffered or experienced poor management at their hands. There is militant talk, but as yet little action or real fight from nurses about the body paid to govern them. Is the NMC who you would choose to manage your profession? I don't think so!!

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10-Jan-2010 2:47 pm

Anonymous above, I think it is because the Nurses who would stand up and fight and get outraged have been so disheartened by the apathy across the profession, and the seeming futileness of actually being able to do anything!

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10-Jan-2010 7:08 pm

It does give every appearance of being stitched up, but the clear arrogance of the NMC must surely anger nurses?

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11-Jan-2010 0:44 am

It angers me - and apparently a lot of others - a hell of a lot, but like anonymous 2:47 has it right, what the hell can any of us do?

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