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Today we are chatting about Jenni’s editorial comment: ‘Listen to what nurses are saying about staffing’

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Readers' comments (4)

  • I work in a private hospital and the staffing is very much an issue, we have 10 patients for a RGN and 1 HCA and all patients are in their own rooms which are not always close together and they can range from orthopeadic to medical and high dependancy with no change in levels of staffing. If in HDU you are expected to be in charge of the ward and have HDU and still be expected to help other staff and also do the staffing for the next day.. When I first went to private sector it was small and now it has increased 3 fold. They are always looking at the HPD and not looking at the patients and the amount of care that is needed. It is very sad that paperwork and filing comes before patient care.. afterall thats all i really wanted to be a nurse caring for patients and not to be doing all the other Political bits that go on now, every day there is another form or another thing we have to do that is not patient orientated to do,..something has got to change or more nurses will leave this beautiful profession very disheartened to do something else completely different.. There needs management to come and work on the wards to actually see what demands are now put on nurses at all levels to actually do on their shift and see if they could actually manage it themselves.

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  • I work in a private sector operating theatre. Most days, one recovery nurse is left with 2 or 3 patients to recover on her own, with only a porter to help if there is a problem, operating days often run 10-18 hours and we are expected to stay and work the shift, no food available, no cover for lunch breaks, and back to work at 0800 next morning for another long day. Reported concerns to manager and matron, now being asked if Im suffering acute depression, and they have the authority to refer me to the mental health team as I sighed and thats a sign of depression!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Our Ward manager is mainly supernumary. And I fully support that. She has extreme deadlines, is expected to deliver the impossble and I believe she has an unpleasant job! On one of the rare occasions she had to work as part of the establishment, we had 2 Nurses ring in sick last minete and at the time the patient dependancy was even higher than usual. We also had 2 discharges to organise and patients to transfer to our ward. As usual our Clinical Site Manager was apathetic about trying to find us some cover to help. To be honest it did our Manager the world of good to experience first hand what we had been reporting to her on many occasions. Since then she is more pro-active about pushing to ensure we have safe staffing levels and has a bit more appreciation of the challenges we face in these situations. And even when she worked as part of the numbers on a normal staffing level day she still couldnt believe how challenging it was. Im talking about a sensible Ward Manager here who does look out for her staff and Im fond of her. However I believe it is easy to forget the challenges faced at grass roots level. When I returned to ward nursing ater working in a clinic it shocked me how much more challenging ward work was in terms of little improvement in staffing levels and the quantity of documentation we are required to fill in nowadays. To be honest I think it would do our Matrons the world of good to spend a few days on the wards from time to time. I remember we had a fantastic Matron who did just that and she was in touch the realities of the our work. I among many really respected her and I would have done anything for her as she was one of the few Mangers who are really in touch with the reality of ward nursing today.

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  • Anonymous | 4-May-2012 12:53 pm

    sounds like you are being labelled which is highly offensive and insulting and potentially dangerous. it could lead a sensitive person or someone who is very tired or has low self esteem to believe they are suffering from a mh disorder and are not being perceived as normal. one of the main roles of managers is supervision and support of their staff.

    that they have power to refer staff to mental health services instead of doing their own job properly is obviously open to serious abuse which is totally unacceptable. However, if mh services saw no signs of depression or disorder they would quickly dismiss you, but it is still stigmatising to be referred to them if this is not the case.

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