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Nursing forum members will not be 'great and the good'

The prime minister’s new forum on nursing will be made up of frontline staff and also look at standards in social care, health minister Paul Burstow has said.

Mr Burstow was giving evidence last Tuesday to the final session of the Commons’ health select committee inquiry into social care.

He told MPs that while the forum’s creation had been “reported as being primarily about nursing”, it would also look at social care and be called the Nursing and Care Quality Forum. He said it would have a “very clear focus not just on the NHS and quality of care but on the social care sector as well”.

The forum is to be chaired by patient advocate and former nurse Sally Brearley. Although details of the other members are yet to be revealed, Mr Burstow said it would “not be made up of the great and the good, but is actually being made up of frontline staff”.

As revealed by nursingtimes.net earlier this month, the forum will be charged with increasing frontline nursing leadership and ensuring best practice is widely adopted. It is one of a group of measures targeted at nursing announced by David Cameron.

Readers' comments (28)

  • tinkerbell

    'not made up of the great and good' is that some kind of back handed compliment or what? Words 'p** up' and 'brewery' spring to mind when it comes to this government making any kind of coherent sense. I guess us frontline staff should just take it as a compliment.

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  • Mr Burstow said it would “not be made up of the great and the good, but is actually being made up of frontline staff”.

    what an insult!

    by extension, this suggests that nurses and other front line staff are the little and the bad!

    I must have been living under some very serious misapprehension and grave delusions of grandeur as I always believed that the great and the good are the front line staff.

    if this is not the case, please could someone reorient me by explaining who these mythical 'great and the good' might be?






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  • gosh, if I hadn't deluded myself into thinking that we nurses and front line workers are all the greatest and best thing since sliced bread I might have left for another career.

    now my delusions are totally shattered and I am cut to the quick!

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  • "What does she do for a living?"

    Oh, she's only a nurse.

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  • 'ensuring best practice is widely adopted'

    How exactly, when services are commissioned and all info is commercially sensitive and therefore behind a wall of competition law???

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  • tinkerbell

    Mr Burstow couldn't you be better employed teaching your granny how to suck eggs!

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  • tinkerbell

    we know what we're doing unfortunately you appear clueless.

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  • I AM GREAT, I AM GOOD

    IN FACT i AM THE VERY GREATEST

    lets adopt the Cassius Clay approach and believe in ourselves, even if nobody else does. That is their problem, they are the losers.

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  • Nurses are the Great and the Good, now politicians how should we describe them????
    You can tell its not an election year with comments of that caliber.

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  • from Anonymous | 21-Jan-2012 6:46 pm

    look at it from another perspective!

    "Nursing forum members will not be 'great and the good'"

    so why aren't we being given the very best? La crème de la crème!

    another way of looking at it.

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  • Mr Burstow when referring to the 'great and the good' is obvioulsy referring to the RCN and it's leadership who do what the Governemnt tell them to do surely??

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  • from Anonymous | 24-Jan-2012 12:44 pm

    from Anonymous | 21-Jan-2012 6:46 pm

    and other commentators

    "Mr Burstow said it would “not be made up of the great and the good, but is actually being made up of frontline staff”."

    it is fairly obvious what Mr. Burstow meant but his statement is nevertheless very ambiguous and can be interpreted in a number of different ways, or misinterpreted with irony!

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  • @anonymous 24/1 1:07

    I find the comment pedant, disparaging and out of context from the commentators above.
    We the commentators are able to comprehend the sentence made by Mr Burstow.
    I believe however, the remark is offensive, thoughtless, provocative and irrational under the current NHS, Nurse, Government debate.

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  • Sin Ical | 24-Jan-2012 3:09 pm

    there is nothing in the NT rules to say that pedantry is not permitted, or even a little humour or frivolity!

    Arrogance, about other commentators when one clearly has not understand the comments, is however, rather less acceptable.

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  • Dear Paul,

    I would like to know exactly to whom you are referring when you say "the great and good".
    Perhaps you are referring to God Almighty him/herself and the heavenly angels. There surely cannot be anyone else (apart from nurses of course) capable of leading this Forum.

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  • Correction from Anonymous | 24-Jan-2012 6:26 pm, above

    for 'understand' please read understood.

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  • tinkerbell

    Anonymous | 24-Jan-2012 6:49 pm

    what's the difference between God and Mr Burstow/Lansley? God doesn't think he's Mr Burstow/Lansley Same as every other slimeball, health for profit, let them eat cake, in the tory party who wants to destroy OUR NHS. I hope they can live with their conscience (can't spell conscience at the moment probably because surely they don't have one), and the blood on their hands when this debacle is over. Please God it will be over one day and we can get back to having an NHS but i guess by then it will be too late to put it back together again.

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  • tinkerbell | 25-Jan-2012 12:39 pm

    how about a live chat with lan, cam & NT?

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  • tinkerbell | 25-Jan-2012 12:39 pm

    further from Anonymous | 24-Jan-2012 6:49 pm

    at the risk of being even more 'pedant' and disparaging when referring to my own comments above, as Sin Ical | 24-Jan-2012 3:09 pm insinuates, a live chat would show 'em who the 'great and the good' really are! (we could also invite along mr Burstow who made this unfortunate, tactless and clumsy statement) - just shows what effects rhetoric can have where the skill is lacking and it goes all wrong!

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  • Now I know where Mike has gone.

    He must be packing his bags to head to London for the first forum meeting. ???????

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