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Updated: nurses should carry on 'as normal' during doc pensions action

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Nurses should turn up for work as usual and not volunteer to do work usually done by doctors during planned industrial action over pensions this week, nursing unions have advised.

Members of the British Medical Association are due to undertake industrial action on 21 June. GPs and hospital doctors will be at their normal place of work but will only be undertaking “urgent” or “emergency” duties.

Guidance issued last Friday by the Royal College of Nursing’s employment relations department states that its members, including agency staff and students, should attend their place of work as normal, as failure to do so is “likely to be a breach of contract”.

“Your employer is required to provide work for you to do. If you attend work and there is no work, or less work, for you to do you should remain at work and your employer must still pay you. This is the case if you are employed directly by a GP or by the NHS,” the RCN guidance advised members.

It added that RCN members “should not volunteer” to cover the work of medical colleagues taking part in the action, but said they were “obliged to carry out any reasonable, contractual, requirements of their employer”.

“Where care has not been able to be delivered as per normal this should be recorded in the patients nursing record with a full explanation of why care was not given as planned,” the RCN guidance said.

“If there are complaints from patients or clients about the delivery of services these should be processed through the employers’ normal complaints procedure.”

In a statement issued on Tuesday, the Royal College of Midwives advised its members “not to do anything to undermine the industrial action by doctors” set for Thursday and “to work as normal”.

Jon Skewes, RCM director of employment relations and development, said: “This is legitimate action by our BMA medical colleagues and we respect their decision. We are advising our members to work as normal but not to undertake work that would undermine the BMA action.

“Midwives have a profound sense of duty to the women and babies they look after, and they will continue to deliver the best care possible on the day.”

The RCM has already accepted the government’s pension offer, following a membership consultation.

Mr Skewes said: “Our members voted to accept the government’s pension offer and with reluctance the RCM board agreed. It is the best deal that could be obtained by negotiation. We will therefore be engaging with other NHS unions on the implementation of the pensions offer accepted by RCM members.”

The union Unite, which has rejected the pension deal, said its members would be showing “solidarity with the BMA doctors” by leafleting, joining picket lines and attending lunchtime meetings.

Unite’s head of health, Rachael Maskell said: “The doctors’ fight should be seen in the context of NHS pensions generally which are not generous.

“Half of NHS employees will receive at or below £4,087 per year when they retire. Many NHS employees are women whose pensions would have been reduced by career breaks.”

She added: “What ministers are imposing is nothing short of a tax on NHS employees.”

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  • Toby Ornottoby

    "Nurses should turn up for work as usual and not volunteer to do work usually done by doctors."

    Call me Mister Big Thicky RN from Apartment 101, 999 Thick Street, Thickville in the County of Very Sticky Toffee-Apples, somewhere in the dense stupidity country that used to be called Britain... but...

    DOES ANYONE ELSE SPOT THE STUPIDITY IN THE FOLLOWING SENTENCE?

    "Nurses should turn up for work as usual and not volunteer to do work usually done by doctors."

    SRSLY? Are Nurses going to turn up and "do work usually done by doctors?"

    If so...

    a) You are even more stupid than the Daily Mail gives you credit for.

    b) You are violating The Nursing and Midwifery Council's professional guidelines.

    c) You can lose your Registration - courtesy of The Nursing and Midwifery Council.

    d) You can get sued for mega bucks and The Nursing and Midwifery Council won't back you up.

    Registered Nurses should keep well away from getting involved in this current "DOCTORS" industrial action.... Nothing to do with us, nothing to see, keep on moving...

    Doctors have a lot more clout than us Nurses do... let us wish them well, hope they get what they are asking for, break the Coalition/Daily Maul conspiracy and then perhaps we can start to heal the National Health Service from the BOTTOM UP!

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  • tinkerbell

    i too thought this was too ridiculous to even comment on but then i wondered if could go in and get away with pretending to be a doctor for the day just for a bit of fun. There's no need to ever be bored.

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  • Here here Toby.

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  • Definitely Moretoby....brilliantly said.

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  • Toby Ornottobe
    Just as I was about to break out the speculum, here you come along and throw a spanner in the works.
    I dunno, what's this country coming to when you can no longer play 'doctors'. I've got my old lab coat, an ice lolly stick for a tongue depressor ( it's got that old joke about 'acute angina' on it), and the bottom of a baked bean tin coupled with a John McEnroe stylie sweatband as a reflector. I'd even started to use my wrong hand so my writing is unintelligable ( can't be sued for negligence if no-one can read my written orders, just tell them it was the feckless nurse not doing as they were bloody well told), taking every Wednesday off to get a few rounds of golf in ( and alternate Mondays) whilst writing out my own prescriptions for a wonderful new medicine ( it cost's a lot more than the previous drug that was used, and is not proven to be more effective, but the rep said I won't be getting an invite for the free international conference in Barbados unless I prescribe it) that means my shit don't stink and the sun shines out of my arse.
    What next, HCA's being used to do the Registered Nurses job? Oh wait....

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  • What's 'normal'?


    "“Your employer is required to provide work for you to do. If you attend work and there is no work, or less work, for you to do you should remain at work..."

    ...and inform them immediately that they must provide you with enough work.


    "It added that RCN members “should not volunteer” to cover the work of medical colleagues taking part in the action, but said they were “obliged to carry out any reasonable, contractual, requirements of their employer”."

    your other colleagues ill cover for them!


    Shame I was looking forward to playing boss sitting behind the outsize executive desk and lolling back on the big squishy leather chair giving orders to everybody else.

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  • Toby Ornottoby

    redpaddys12

    You need to get an Avatar.

    Then -like me - you need to get a life.

    To explain the bleeding obvious to a generation of computerised "dumb-nuts"

    I despair at our legacy...

    RNs who merely tap in care on computer screens> Is this what we fought for in the 70"s

    Oh yes

    Baldrick tells me this is the “hot” site to go to - probably a mud slide.

    https://www.nursingtimes.net/story.aspx?storycode=5018275&PageNo=4&SortOrder=dateadded&PageSize=20#comments

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  • the confusing thing is that everybody seems to have a different definition of what they mean by 'normal'?

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    Anonymous | 19-Jun-2012 11:19 am

    "the confusing thing is that everybody seems to have a different definition of what they mean by 'normal'?"

    Only confusing to you it seems. Your confusion about confusion seems to be tied up with the fact that you are confused... e.g. Terminally Bewildered.

    If you had studied Nursing (at any sort of level over the last 40 years) you would have learned the concept of being an "individual" with all the mores and folkways that consequently ensues.


    "Every normal person, in fact, is only normal on the average. His ego approximates to that of the psychotic in some part or other and to a greater or lesser extent.
    Sigmund Freud"

    My Pink Half Of The Drainpipe

    The Bonzo Dog Dooh Dah Band

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aolMV0oNCBE&feature=related

    You who speak to me across the fence
    Of common sense
    How your tomato plant will win a prize,
    won't that be nice,
    And by the way, how's your wife?
    Your holidays were spent in Spain
    You went by train
    You'll go again

    Have you seen me bullfight poster on the wall?
    Do you know the appy memory it recalls?
    Here's a photograph of me and my son, Ted
    That's me cousin with his hanky on his head!
    We booked in at our otel just after two
    And met a family from Bradford that we knew

    Oooh, a melody! Burp!

    My pink half of the drainpipe
    Separates next door from me
    My pink half of the drainpipe
    Oh, Mama!
    Belongs to me

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    Semi-detach-ed, ah!
    My pink half of the drainpipe
    Oh, Mama!
    Belongs to moi

    I have a sister in Toronto who's a nurse
    And I've had a bit of bother laying turf
    It's life, not books, that taught me all I've learned
    Woop, in the b'oven my rice pudding's getting burned!
    Ere, have you seen the new attachment on me drill?
    I must have the cat put down, cause he's ill

    Hey, neighbour!

    My pink half of the drainpipe
    I may paint it blue
    My pink half of the drainpipe
    Keeps me safe from
    you!

    I'm a wobbly jelly, you're a pink blancmange
    I'm a sherry trifle, you're a chocolate sponge
    Your dad wears a paper hat, mine inflates balloons
    Whoops! Boodly boop! Pop! Here comes a spoon!

    My pink half of the drainpipe
    Separates me from the incredibly fascinating story of your life and
    every day to day event in all it's minute and tedious attention to
    detail... And was it a Thursday or a Wednesday? Or, oh, no, it wasn't though. Oh,
    who cares anyway because I do not so Norman, if you're normal, I intend to
    be a freak for the rest of my life, and I shall baffle you with cabbages
    and rhinoceroses in the kitchen incessant quotations from "Now We Are
    Six" through the mouthpiece of Lord Snooty's giant poisoned electric
    head.



    Me normal? Nope. I am a Registered Nurse!

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