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sydney marsh

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  • Comment on: Why are nurses paying for bankers' mistakes?

    sydney marsh's comment 28 August, 2011 0:06 am

    I have read all comments and whilst I agree with them I feel the unions – ALL unions have failed their members.

    Like politicians they call for support but fail to support or shout loud enough about all the other injustices.

    This argument about pensions fails to highlight one simple fact – over the entire history of negotiations the government rolled out their favourite statement :-

    You have to accept a lower wage increase in comparison with other private workers. WHY ?

    BECAUSE you have a SECURE job and a GOOD PENSION.

    I remember when as a deputy head of department, my bus fares increased more than my annual increment and pay increase

    So if they now wish to bring public pensions into line with private ones, that's OK – BUT – they have to make up ALL the back pay that they forfeited – with interest! - That's fair don't you agree ?

    But this is just one plank or rivet in the ship [HMS National Health Service] that is falling apart.

    What about the end to :-

    national pay deals ;

    Regional Boards - How can you single handedly supervise hundreds of individual hospitals ; GPs ; Dentists ; Pharmacies etc., etc. Tell me one large national company [none as big as the NHS] that is run by the branch offices. I wonder what the share holders would say.

    Let me just run over some facts.

    Which company setts about a TOTAL revamp on a “VISION” ? Where the highest paid managers who had this “VISION” say – that they cannot tell the staff how to make it work BECAUSE THEY DO NOT KNOW HOW TO ! That is in black and white in one of the numerous documents with the most misleading titles – the NHS PLANS !

    At the same time they admit – there are NO PLANS !

    Who, in their right mind starts changing things on such a vast scale without first developing their “VISION” into a viable plan, WHO ?

    Every section should have a CPA – Critical Path Analysis. Otherwise you are flying by the seat of your pants.

    It is like building the Twin Towers without knowing how to or what you need and without knowing if it will stand up as you build it or when you finish it.

    They also went into print – in the same set of documents – saying. After several years of research they discovered, that if you look after the well-being of your staff, they – perform better, there is less sickness, lower turnover and better team spirit [or words to that effect].

    These are top managers and they needed years of research to know that ! It beggars belief. And what have they learnt from it – precisely nothing.

    Nursing staff are expected to work overtime for FREE or work Pool for basic grade and no time off in lieu. The wedding day, a public holiday and nurses throughout the NHS were paid at different rates.

    Medical staff gagged from informing patients that their GP has changed their medication only to save their budget to the detriment of the patients health.

    What did Cameron & Clegg say ? We WILL protect the front line – the money will follow the patient, we have ring fenced the funding. So why is the NHS falling apart at the seams ?

    One reason is that there are too many people with degrees but no brains, they do not value experience only bits of paper.

    Then we come round to their excuse they constantly churn out as to why they are turning the service on its head – to save money. Which brings us back to where we started.

    Why are they saving money and not fulfilling another claim – we will have a world leading service – the answer being they are following in Margaret Thatcher's footsteps.

    They say they can provide the same and better service with less, but are failing at every turn.

    They are locked into the very same pattern of thought that the Coalition had in 1929 – see below “After the May 2010 Election” from the web site [which has been hacked and is currently down]

    All they are interested in is cutting public services in order that private companies can move in. I have no problem with either private or public services, providing they compete on equal terms. We all expect value for money – if not why are super markets so popular ?

    What we do expect is, that those charged with managing and planning the public services do so correctly and not waste so much money at all levels.

    Unions can be just as bad. How many have built flash facilities in town halls at the expense of rate payers ? How many organise union meetings to coincide with some trivial council committee meeting so they get paid.

    So the division is not black and white – the emphasis should be on quality and value.

    But why are we in such deep s*** financially ? Because we bailed out the banks when we should have nationalised them. That way salaries, bonuses and lending would all be under control. OH, I forgot, the financial advisers said they would all emigrate – to where all the banks were / are in the same mess.

    I do not see them bailing out all the sound companies that have folded why ? Why only the banks ?

    The bankers big payouts get invested in oversees companies not spent on the high street, nurses wages do and the shop assistant does the same etc., etc.

    The bankers pay proportionately very little tax and avoid VAT. Where as nurses etc., cannot avoid either.

    Also it is not long ago that two bank employees went to jail for NEARLY bringing down two banks.

    Seeing as numerous bank managers etc., have brought so much devastation to so many – in effect bringing the country down. Why then has not one person been brought before the courts or are we going to pay the other two a large compensation for false charges ?

    So much for – we are all equal and we are all in it together.

    There is another way that “GB financial mess” can be cleaned up.

    In 1997 the top 0.1% of the population got 4.3% of all income [ and that did not include millionaires.
    The top 10% received 40% of all income & 53% of all wealth.

    If they paid the same proportion of income tax there would be no problem.

    After the May 2010 election.

    Well we all now know that the Coalition Government are hell bent on cutbacks of almost any kind and that includes the NHS in one form or another – wage freeze/cuts – pensions frozen for ex -workers – talk of reduction in managerial staff – possible abolition of SHAs.

    This is not a politically motivated site, and this is not a political statement, but it would seem that the country has been here before, all be it in a slightly different form.

    We have all heard about the Great Depression of 1929. But how many are aware of the basic facts ?

    In 1929 there was the stock market crash which started the Great Depression. Sound familiar – stock market / banks – America .

    To continue – this shook the world [echo] – credit dried up [echo] – countries adopted emergency responses [echo] – governments faced financial crisis [echo] – government income contracted [echo] – cost of unemployment rose [echo].

    The government appointed a committee to review the state of finances [echo] – the report [July 1931] proposed, public sector wage cuts ; cuts in public spending ; cuts in benefits [echo]

    A National Government [coalition] was formed by no other than the Conservatives & Liberals [echo]

    Following a general election in 1931 the Conservatives introduced draconian measures – cuts of 10% in public sector wages and benefits – a rise of 2.5% in taxes [echo]

    The result – deflation – let us hope that that is not echoed. Some are already predicting a fall in house prices of 30%.

    The worst areas hit were similar to those that are predicted to be hit again.

    It is reported that overall there will be a 25% cut back but half that for MPs !! WHY ?

    Again we have heard about council workers/department cut backs but what about the councillors ?
    Including political party facilities / party bars etc., in the town halls.

    That is a statement of fact, so we will all have to watch with interest as things develop and see what impact it has on the NHS staff / service.

    Having said all that I think we all have to face the fact that the NHS cannot finance every medical discovery, as hard as that may sound. At least it cannot unless we are prepared to finance it in one way or another.

    It is stated that the majority of the expenditure is in the community [ 80%] not in the high tech' hospital treatments. Also a similar percentage of costs is incurred when we are over 65years old.
    In France the service is mainly financed by private insurance and that continues for life, where as pensioners in England pay nothing and very little tax.

    So at a time we most likely need the NHS and incur its greatest cost, we are contributing the least if anything.

    Plus we have to accept that when we did contribute the service was nothing like what it is in later life.

    Some of us are old enough to remember when it was a very sad day when you saw an ambulance outside a house as it was treated almost as a hearse in waiting. The days when appendicitis was a major operation taking weeks, now day surgery; transplants were in science fiction, helicopters almost unheard of. All this is now taken for granted, indeed it is expected as a right ; but it all has to be paid for.

    We would like to hear your proposals as to how the NHS's ever increasing financial demands can be met. Plus we invite you all not just NHS workers to tell us where you see waste in whatever form. We would especially like those who have had first hand experience of health service in other countries, who can make direct comparisons of service showing where costs and/or quality of service can be improved.

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